Do an attractive female a favor and vote for her

LMFAO

Conrad, you make that post with a girl in your sig wearing nothing but a jean jacket, dude......

no offense but, you sir, are full of irony.

thank you for the laugh.

haha thats a good point dank.

Originally Posted by Juice

I fail to see how that's wrong. There's nothing wrong with having sexual relations with different people. As long as they're responsible and use protection, there's nothing wrong with that at all IMO.

I'm not mad, I just think it's unfair. Labeling people you don't even know just screams ignorance to me. I don't see how being in a few risque pics justifies someone as being a slut. For all we know, she could still be a virgin and she's doing this just to feed her kids. I doubt that's the case, but that's my whole point. We have no clue, so how can we judge?

I just feel that if you think she's a slut, it should be kept to yourself. Posting it in a thread where one of the members actually knows this girl personally is unnecessary and disrespectful. Just coming out and openly calling her a slut is considered trolling in my eyes and that's the only reason I responded in the first place.

He's actually trolled quite a few times by my count, but that all just depends on one's perception of trolling. I didn't 'start' anything in this thread by my estimation. All I said was that Bunker was unworthy of a response. If he's willing to call her a slut, he should be held accountable for that comment and therefore susceptible to response IMO. As I grow older I notice this generally judgmental nature amongst people and it's one of my least favorite aspects of society.

:iono:

Whats the point of forums if we just allow people to post stuff but people aren't allowed to go into threads and voice their opinions.
The perception and judgement of someone being a slut im sure is different from person to person. And i never said that her being a slut made her a bad person... At all. And if she chooses to have sexual relations with as many guys as she wants then good for her. I could care less whether she does or not. But all i know of her is these pictures. And from these pictures like i said before most people would draw that shes a slut.
Its my opinion and Bunkers as well and we are allowed to voice that. i respect dank and his friend for defending her as i would do the same thing but Bunk and myself don't know her at all.... So why can't we call her slut if the only impression we have of her is standing by a tractor with her top off.....

Originally Posted by dank

LMFAO

Conrad, you make that post with a girl in your sig wearing nothing but a jean jacket, dude......

no offense but, you sir, are full of irony.

thank you for the laugh.

You are easily one of my favorite posters on CTS. Your thoughts and insights are very entertaining and engaging to read and debate with. But i fail to see how me having a picture of a girl in as juice would say a "risque" picture discredits anything i said in my previous post. I mentioned nothing about the woman in my sig or in my avatar. They are beautiful women as is the woman in the picture in this thread. BUt hey for all you know the girl in my sig could be a slut, the girl in my avatar is in fact a slut, or more over a ****star.

I just really fail to see how calling someone a slut and supporting your arguement has anything to do with me having a picture of a woman in similar poses in my sig. It just makes zero sense to me that i can call some girl i have no idea a slut and support that but i can't have a picture of a beautiful girl wearing nothing but a jean jacket in my signature???

You and Juice are both failing to see my arguement. If shes a slut then shes a slut, if shes not than shes not. But the impression given from these picture to the general public is these are slutty picture thus deeming the model in them slutty. Whether or not she is, thats left for the people that actually know her. It doesn't take away from her natural beauty at all its just an opinion and impression.

you can't always judge a book by its cover, I know girls who model similar photos to this and even more risque that are virgins, I shit you not. some of them are a part of Tempe12 even, believe it or not.

just like Chappelle said, just because she may be in a "whore's uniform" doesn't make her a whore.

you're failing to realize you're coming off like a misogynist, Conrad, and while I have no doubt that you do have respect for women because you've shown me nothing in your character elsewhere to make me believe otherwise - you've been speaking out of both sides of your mouth in here.

I don't care to say anything else on the matter, double-standards are among my least favorite things to talk about, so we can agree to disagree I suppose.

Originally Posted by dank

you can't always judge a book by its cover, I know girls who model similar photos to this and even more risque that are virgins, I shit you not. some of them are a part of Tempe12 even, believe it or not.

just like Chappelle said, just because she may be in a "whore's uniform" doesn't make her a whore.

you're failing to realize you're coming off like a misogynist, Conrad, and while I have no doubt that you do have respect for women because you've shown me nothing in your character elsewhere to make me believe otherwise - you've been speaking out of both sides of your mouth in here.

I don't care to say anything else on the matter, double-standards are among my least favorite things to talk about, so we can agree to disagree I suppose.

BUt how can one be a virgin but be doing this to feed her kids?????? (i know you didn't say that but talk about double standards, ignorance and basic stupidity)

And thats fine. You know her and i don't. And at first glance i wasn't automatically like hey slut, similar to bunker. But most people would react the way Bunker did so i felt that i needed to support his thought process. If i met this girl and had a conversation with her and got to know her, im sure that my opinion would change from what your saying. But i have never and will never know this girl so these picture are all im left with and thats as far as i can go with my opinion of her.

Agree to disagree

Originally Posted by Conrad

Whats the point of forums if we just allow people to post stuff but people aren't allowed to go into threads and voice their opinions.

Dude, you're the only who told me to chill after making a post lol. I think some things are just better left unsaid, but it's whatever. The point of this thread was to vote for this chick in some type of competition. However, I realize that comments such as those from bcransom before they were deleted were probably gonna show up in this thread regardless.

The perception and judgement of someone being a slut im sure is different from person to person. And i never said that her being a slut made her a bad person... At all. And if she chooses to have sexual relations with as many guys as she wants then good for her. I could care less whether she does or not. But all i know of her is these pictures. And from these pictures like i said before most people would draw that shes a slut.

How? I still don't get how those pictures alone make her a slut. Does that mean every chick who's ever been on the cover of Sports Illustrated or been in a Hooter's calender or done any type of risque posing whatsoever is automatically a slut?

Its my opinion and Bunkers as well and we are allowed to voice that. i respect dank and his friend for defending her as i would do the same thing but Bunk and myself don't know her at all.... So why can't we call her slut if the only impression we have of her is standing by a tractor with her top off.....

You can call her whatever you want, but that doesn't mean it's accurate. If we judged every person by the way they looked in a few pics without ever even knowing them, we would have the wrong impressions of a whole lot of people. What if all we ever knew about Greg Oden was the nude pics he had floating around online? Would we just consider him a man whore and disregard everything else?

You are easily one of my favorite posters on CTS. Your thoughts and insights are very entertaining and engaging to read and debate with. But i fail to see how me having a picture of a girl in as juice would say a "risque" picture discredits anything i said in my previous post. I mentioned nothing about the woman in my sig or in my avatar. They are beautiful women as is the woman in the picture in this thread. BUt hey for all you know the girl in my sig could be a slut, the girl in my avatar is in fact a slut, or more over a ****star.

It's just contradicting to me. Slut is such a derogatory term. It's strange that you call these girls sluts and yet you still have them in your sig and avi.

I just really fail to see how calling someone a slut and supporting your arguement has anything to do with me having a picture of a woman in similar poses in my sig. It just makes zero sense to me that i can call some girl i have no idea a slut and support that but i can't have a picture of a beautiful girl wearing nothing but a jean jacket in my signature???

Why is one of them labeled a 'slut' and the other labeled 'a beautiful girl in a jean jacket?' lol, those definitely on opposing sides of the derogatory spectrum.

You and Juice are both failing to see my arguement. If shes a slut then shes a slut, if shes not than shes not. But the impression given from these picture to the general public is these are slutty picture thus deeming the model in them slutty. Whether or not she is, thats left for the people that actually know her. It doesn't take away from her natural beauty at all its just an opinion and impression.

You're acknowledging in this post that she might not be a slut, yet you're calling her one anyway.

Originally Posted by Conrad

BUt how can one be a virgin but be doing this to feed her kids?????? (i know you didn't say that but talk about double standards, ignorance and basic stupidity)

What's wrong with that? I said it was an unlikely scenario, but plausible nonetheless.
She wouldn't be the first to do things she wouldn't normally do to put food on the table.

And thats fine. You know her and i don't. And at first glance i wasn't automatically like hey slut, similar to bunker. But most people would react the way Bunker did so i felt that i needed to support his thought process. If i met this girl and had a conversation with her and got to know her, im sure that my opinion would change from what your saying. But i have never and will never know this girl so these picture are all im left with and thats as far as i can go with my opinion of her.

Dude, you're basically saying that you're wrong. If you think your impression of her would change after getting to know her, why judge in the first place? I just don't think pics alone are a legitimate enough criteria for judging who someone is as an individual.

Holy hell. Its like arguing with a robot. And not to mention the example you used to defend your arguement is contradictory. Unless this 20 year old girl wanted so badly to have kids through invitro soooo badly because she was a virgin... Somehow i don't think thats how the scenario would go down.

THE IMPRESSION THESE PICTURES GIVE SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT KNOW THIS GIRL FOR 2 SHITS IS THAT SHE IS A SLUT......

Simple as that.
You can set up a god damn poll if your going to stand by someone you so blindly do not know.

If this were dank i were arguing with i would respect his judgement to defend his friend.

I can call whoever i want to a slut... It doesn't change the type of person they are or the type of person i am. I don't just go around calling every girl i see a slut. But i call a girl a slut when the perception is given to me. And thats perception given off by these pictures. And as for the pictures in my signatures and avatars.... Whats that gotta do with anything? your reaching with that arguement big time. Its not hypocritical of me to call someone a slut but then have risque pictures in my signatures..... Your being ignorant...

Lets agree to disagree on this one because im tired of arguing with someone who thinks that a rising virgin model would want to support her children concieved through scientific manners rather than intercourse.....

Originally Posted by Conrad

Holy hell. Its like arguing with a robot. And not to mention the example you used to defend your arguement is contradictory. Unless this 20 year old girl wanted so badly to have kids through invitro soooo badly because she was a virgin... Somehow i don't think thats how the scenario would go down.

It's possible. Who knows? Maybe she's just trying to feed herself.

THE IMPRESSION THESE PICTURES GIVE SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT KNOW THIS GIRL FOR 2 SHITS IS THAT SHE IS A SLUT......

Simple as that.

Not IMO.

You can set up a god damn poll if your going to stand by someone you so blindly do not know.

You don't know her any better than I do dude.

If this were dank i were arguing with i would respect his judgement to defend his friend.

dank doesn't even know this chick dude. That's made quite clear in this thread. It's his friend who knows her (he goes by keif on this site).

I can call whoever i want to a slut... It doesn't change the type of person they are or the type of person i am. I don't just go around calling every girl i see a slut. But i call a girl a slut when the perception is given to me. And thats perception given off by these pictures.

Fair enough. I doubt you'd want people judging you off pics, but I'm not gonna try changing your ways. Women are objectified enough as it is - what's one more person?

And as for the pictures in my signatures and avatars.... Whats that gotta do with anything? your reaching with that arguement big time. Its not hypocritical of me to call someone a slut but then have risque pictures in my signatures..... Your being ignorant...

It's extremely hypocritical lol. You're criticizing and supporting the same types females at the same time.

Lets agree to disagree on this one because im tired of arguing with someone who thinks that a rising virgin model would want to support her children concieved through scientific manners rather than intercourse.....

Fair enough.

so what ****star is that in your avatar, again, Conrad? lol

Please make a case how i can call someone a slut but then not have picture of them in my signatures..... PLease i don't care about the rest of this arguement anymore except this.... Please tell me how its soooo hypocritical of me...

I never once said that her being a slut or any woman being a slut or being percieved as one was something i didn't like. If i put a picture of a gorgeous naked woman in front of you would say get that shit away from me thats degrading?????
We are men its in our nature to notice beautiful women and to think about bad things when we see the risque pictures. I like to look at beautiful women. I have friends that are slutty. I don't think any of less of them. Its a choice to be coined that whether or not they have done something to warrant that. But IMO if someone has a reputation of being a slut then they must have done something to bring about that perception. So please educate me in how im being hypocritical...

I could see how this would be a valid arguement if i said well shes a slut and those pictures are slutty and i hate sluts.... Sluts are stupid. God i hate sluts....

All i said is those pictures are slutty and don't know this girl at all and thats the perception im left with after im done looking. I don't think about oh gee i think shes a gorgeous woman.... I think oh damn shes freaking hot.... I think i wouldn't mind seeing more...

If thats the perception shes going for than by all means those are great pictures... But if your gunna throw those pictures in front of some famous model agency that puts people on America' Next Top Model or in Vogue or Glamour.... They would most likely laugh and throw them away. Its all about perception. If you don't percieve these pictures as slutty than thats your opinion. But if you asked someone who knew what they were looking at if they were classy, high quality modeling pictures they would disagree. But like i said in a past post its all about what shes going for.

Perception is the name of the game. Now just answer my question. Please.

Originally Posted by dank

so what ****star is that in your avatar, again, Conrad? lol

Hannah Hilton.... Are you trying to ignite a debate or just wondering who the ****star is?

honest question. lol

Originally Posted by Juice

You just troll sometimes and it's annoying IMO.

It's called gentle ribbing, jewseph.

^ LOL

Bolshevik

Actually I gotta go with Bunker and Conrad in this topic. Not trying to start a new debate just saying I can understand why someone who does NOT know who this girl is personally may see the pics as slutty.

Originally Posted by Conrad

Please make a case how i can call someone a slut but then not have picture of them in my signatures..... PLease i don't care about the rest of this arguement anymore except this.... Please tell me how its soooo hypocritical of me...

I never once said that her being a slut or any woman being a slut or being percieved as one was something i didn't like. If i put a picture of a gorgeous naked woman in front of you would say get that shit away from me thats degrading?????
We are men its in our nature to notice beautiful women and to think about bad things when we see the risque pictures. I like to look at beautiful women. I have friends that are slutty. I don't think any of less of them. Its a choice to be coined that whether or not they have done something to warrant that. But IMO if someone has a reputation of being a slut then they must have done something to bring about that perception. So please educate me in how im being hypocritical...

I could see how this would be a valid arguement if i said well shes a slut and those pictures are slutty and i hate sluts.... Sluts are stupid. God i hate sluts....

All i said is those pictures are slutty and don't know this girl at all and thats the perception im left with after im done looking. I don't think about oh gee i think shes a gorgeous woman.... I think oh damn shes freaking hot.... I think i wouldn't mind seeing more...

If thats the perception shes going for than by all means those are great pictures... But if your gunna throw those pictures in front of some famous model agency that puts people on America' Next Top Model or in Vogue or Glamour.... They would most likely laugh and throw them away. Its all about perception. If you don't percieve these pictures as slutty than thats your opinion. But if you asked someone who knew what they were looking at if they were classy, high quality modeling pictures they would disagree. But like i said in a past post its all about what shes going for.

Perception is the name of the game. Now just answer my question. Please.

Of course the actual pictures are slutty dude - that's the whole point. My argument was that being in slutty photos doesn't necessarily make the girl herself a slut.

To answer the question, it's hypocritical in my mind because you're using a derogatory term to describe what she's representing in those photos and yet it's still being show in your sig. To me, it would be like saying Team Canada ****in sucks while rockin a Sydney Crosby sig. Not the best analogy, but something along those lines.

Originally Posted by Bunker

It's called gentle ribbing, jewseph.

I'm not Jewish, bro. I laugh at you guys thinking that's really me in the picture. I'm not a genius, but I'm smart enough not to post a real photo of myself in an AIM chat filled with people I've never met. The guys in that photo aren't even Jewish themselves, so I don't know what you guys are smoking lol.

Originally Posted by htown11

^ LOL

Bolshevik

Actually I gotta go with Bunker and Conrad in this topic. Not trying to start a new debate just saying I can understand why someone who does NOT know who this girl is personally may see the pics as slutty.

I don't disagree with that sentiment. Nine of the ten guys you ask are gonna say those are slutty pics. My point is that just because the pics are slutty, doesn't mean the model herself is a slut. Anyone on this damn forum could have nude pics of themselves floating around the web. That doesn't automatically mean they're man whores. Some people just like to get risque and I have no problem with that form of expression.

This is precisely why ily Htown. You get me you studly little brownnniiie

at least this thread is getting her some views lol

dank doesn't know her, he posted this thread for me as a friend doing another friend a favor before I signed up at this website.

wasn't looking to come in here to get her bashed, but that's the chance that you take when you take pictures that are risque and expect people to look at them. i'm fine with that, and I know she's fine with that.

calling someone you don't know personally at all a slut is a bit overkill, IMO. yes, there is a picture topless in front of a tractor. have you ever seen her in a **** video? do you see her bear breasts? no. she could have easily done that.

i dont feel the need to defend her any furthur then that. If i get any more pictures ill be posting them ;)

**raises my bowl to dank and other supporters**

Hahah gotta admit though it's a really interesting discussion. I read through the whole thing and it's literally a well thought out debate.

Anyway hope she gets whatever recognition she needs to be successful keif.

Yeah i gotta say that all the arguements being thrown around in here are valid... And don't think that anyone was particularly vulgar or down right rude with the exception of our expelled toddlers.
Bunker means no harm...

But yeah this was maybe my favorite debate on the forum in a long time.

Originally Posted by dank

http://www.jettgirlmodelsearch.com/s...natalie-fultz/

one of my friends is fortunate enough to know this woman and he asked me to vote a 5 for her, in turn, I'm asking you all to do the same to help out.

please and thank you.

here she is:

Hey Dank. I was wondering if you could please take down these pictures of me. I had no idea these were up here and I really need them to be taken down. I have no idea how they got on the internet. I appreciate you getting people to vote but I am begging you if you could take them down so that way when people search for me on google they don't see these especially employers....